Spinal Cord, Nerve and Brain Injuries and Regeneration

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Dr Karasev (or anybody who might know):

Dr. Karaserv, in answering the last question in the FAQ asking about spinal cord injuries, said:
" Such disorders can be successfully treated with our devices, but require complex application using three models: one model will heal the bedsores and normalize the intestine work and other organs and systems functioning; another model will provide regeneration of the damaged nerve fibres; and the third model is meant specially for restoration of atrophied muscles. Such method can also be used for elimination of conditions after unsuccessful surgery. One more thing – such treatment requires long time, about one year."

I have not seen a treatment regime for this. It sounds from Dr. Karasev's comments that there are actually 3 treatment focusses. The regeneration of the damaged nerve fibres is the one which, if it can be done, will help many, even if it is for now only a partial regeneration. Which models would be used, and what treatment techniques would be used? I heard Dr. Kossovoskaia's comments to a therapist who was treating a person with a spinal cord injury to the neck which resulted in complete paralysis, but still had autonomic nerve responses (indicating it was not a complete separation or severing of the nerve), where she indicated that there were no studies on spinal cord regeneration, but some andedotal experience, especially with new injuries, and that it was encouraging. But she didn't mention any specific techniques. For devices she recommended using the 715 and the Dove (Myoscen), one to trigger, the other for the regeration features. The same therapist, when talking with Dr. Gawain (who works with Dr. Kossovoskaia) mentioned that he had been using the Dove and Q1000 laser and 808 enhancer (laser) up and down the spine three times per week, and was getting some muscle strength in the muscles of one arm that was not there before. The recorded comments there were probably a couple years ago. Dr. Gawain, in talking with the same therapist, mentioned another paralysis case he knew of where treatment started 5 years after the complete paralysis, again apparenlty a neck injury, where there was more improvement, using regular use of a 30 mw 660 nm laser, and a 300 mw 808 nm laseer (both used with the Q1000), and some movement was developing (no use of a scenar or cosmodic, which seems to be something which could only help the situation).

I know that the LET Medical devices have advanced resonances beyond those present with standard Scenar. From course listings for RITM scenar courses, it appears that their Level 3 course includes some form of treatment methods for Spinal Cord injuries. One of their key trainers in North America has an article posted on Spinal Cord injuries (listed on http://www.scenarlife.com), and mentions a Scenar therapist in England, Stephen Coleman, who was trained in exercise therapy, and has a clinic there where he treats spinal cord injuries. His treatments apparently involve taking readings along the complete central nervous system, and treating from those readings. He also treats the legs and feet on one visit, and the arms the next, trying to get the symetries to provide a connection or link for the body. He has apparently had good results from this approach. A number of his patients have had increased sensation, strength, energy & functional movement. They have had decreased pain, hypersensitivity, and spasm, and increased bowel, bladder, & resperatory function. One example listed regained bladder control and functional use of lower leg muscles, and had substantially decreased swelling. If regular scenar devices can achieve this degree of results, Cosmodic should be able to achieve more. The question is just what techniques and placements should help in acheiving these results. Or would it be best to go to the RITM training courses and attempt to learn from them, then try to come up with modifications for Cosmodic devices?

If there are techniques that have worked for others before, they are at least worth trying, and it would be good to know these, or where these could be obtained from. I know Dr. Karasev is an engineer, not an active therapist, but he knows his machines, helped develop the treatment theory, and knows many therapists who use his machines. So any input he could provide on devices to try, and locations and methods to use, would be appreciated by all. I'm sure the starting point for regeneration would probably be an EX715 or EX735 on the point of the separation / problem, but the question is whether there are other possible trigger points which can help nudge the body toward regeneration. From the therapist's comments as to the approach he was using, going up and down the spine would probably be another good approach. And working on the legs, then arms, might help trigger something also.

The other associated issue with spinal cord injuries, raised by the therapist who was talking with Dr. Gawain (mentioned above) was that there seems to be a difference in the ability to recover between the normal spinal cord injuries and those which involve a complete severing of the spinal cord. Apparently only a small percentage of spinal cord injuries result in a complete severing of the spinal column. In most cases, the problems are caused by the level of bruising, and not an actual severing. The first thing to go is function, the second is feeling, and the third is the autonomic nervous system (meaning that if the bruising or injury is in the neck, etc, that the person has to be on a respirator). If it is a bruising rather than a complete severing, the likelyhood of making progress is apparently much higher, at least through traditional medicine and treatments, since the thing to overcome is the damage caused by the bruising, and the structure is stil in place. The bruising apparenlty causes the body to create an enzyme, which destroys some the surrounding tissue, etc and makes recovery much more difficult. If they can treat quickly with something that will stop the production of these enzymes witihin the first 7 or 8 hours (whether by scenar, laser, or medicine), there is a lot less damage / destruction done, and it is a lot easier to help the body to heal itself. But some of the rat studies at least create a hope that somehow even completely severed spinal columns can, under the right circumstances, have the body reconnect the nerves, and the body will in those situations connect the right nerves.

For treatment of any spinal cord injury, it looks like the question probably a two fold one.
1. what are the methods, devices, etc, for the injuries with the bruising and paralysis, but no actual severing of the spinal cord.
2. what methods, etc, might help, and what are the chances of making some progress, when the spine is actually severed (i.e. low back injury with resulting paralysis below the waist, etc)?

The treatment approach is probably the most important, since if there has been effective progress in helping those with brain injuries, brain damage, severed spine and other nerves, etc, it is not as critical to know what the body actually does to acheive this. But knowing the how, i.e. what the body is able to achieve, might help in working with treatment methods used.

Going beyond the techniques to use is a second question related to the theory and the body's ability to heal itself, and limitations to that ability. How much regeneration is possible, and under what circumstances is it possible? Dr. Karasev implies that for nerve cell, and even brain cell, regeneration is possible. The information distributed and believed among some of the leading scientists and medical peope in the western world 20 years ago (the last information I have seen well summarized, etc), was that all cells other than nerve and brain cells could be regnerated by the body, but for some reason it was felt that brain and nerve cells could not be - that what you had from some point in your development was all you would ever have. From there, if there was damage to brain cells, the body could work around the damaged area and compensate by building new synapses, but no regeneraton of the actual damaged cells was possible. The thought was that the body simply did not create new brain or nerve cells. It was thought that the nerve cells that existed might lengthen and sometimes bridge to try to compensate, but no new nerve cells would be grown either. One of the specialists I talked to in North America recently who saw a lot of nerve injuries in his practice seemed to hold the same view, so it appears that this is still the common thought in North America.

Has the traditional view changed? Is there information or research that has stepped beyond the traditional understanding in western medicine? Have advancements in medicine recognized a potential, through stem cells and other similar features in the body, which when properly triggered (by Scenar or Cosmodic, or similar stimulation), can lead to actual regeneration of even brain and nerve cells? Or is this regeneraton simply something which provides a new way for the body to bridge around the damaged areas, and not a pure regeneration? For example, some of the stem cell research and similar experiments out there seem to provide hope for at least some situations, even though the initial rat expeiments may not directly apply to human lower body muscles since they apparently move based on a different (easier to stimulate) set of nerves. Current research seems to be a step beyond the thinking 20 dyears ago, and might be part of the key if progress is possible, since it sounds like stem cells have been used in experiments regarding nerve regeneration. And if Cosmodic devices seem to be able to stimulate the body to call on these for getting the body to heal itself, it seems to open a completely new door.

[Jim Coen]

Cosmodic has already produced improved mobility with Parkinson's disease, a degeneration of pigmented nerve cells. Surely it can help restore spinal nerve cells. Dr Mohammed might have some thoughts about this http://www.scenar-therapy.com/publications/parkinson_3months_later/

Regards
Jim

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Thanks for the comments Jim.

You're right - the tremendous improvement with the Parkinsons case reported in another part of this web site shows a that Cosmodic technology definitely causes improvement in degenerated, or damaged, nerve cells. The improvements with the epilepsy case reported also show the same thing. And even Dr. Kossovoskaia's experience with her son's complete recovery from Turrets syndrome confirms that nerve damage can recover with scenar technology. So there clearly is a beneficial effect to neve cells from use of Scenar, and even more so with Cosmodic.

My question, and pondering, about Spinal cord injuries is not because I question whether they should help bring improvement to nerve cells, but what (if any) seem to be the current limits of the technology when it comes to brain, nerve, and spinal cord injuries and regeneration. And going beyond that, and what methods have worked the best in the past, and would be good ones to try now.

It seems to be one thing to trigger the body to revive sick cells and get them operating properly, which Scenar has been proven to do. Triggering general regeneration is more of a challenge, but some of the past examples seem to confirm that Dr. Karasev's work toward celluar regeneration works. The ultimate question is if Cosmodic technology is able to get the body to call totally unrelated stem cells to come to a spinal separation, have the stem cells transfor to the appropriate type of nerve cells, and begin to bridge the spinal cord gap. Early rat related spinal cord regeneration studies showed that progress could be made with one type of nerve cell, but the problem is that it is a different type of nerve cell involved with muscle movement in humans.

Someone I know had a signifcant spinal cord injury to the lower spine from when a tree fell on him, and it sounds like there is a good chance that his injury resulted in a severing of the spinal cord. He has learned to cope with his problem. Given what has been viewed as the difference between spinal cord injuries, where the spinal cord is intact but simply strangled by swelling resulting in the paralysis, and the spinal cord separations, it would be good to know if there has been any actual progress, and what the possible current expectation would be for significant recovery. I don't want to build up a false hope if there has not yet been significant progress when the injury is involves a complete spinal separation.

That is the question for Dr. Karasev, or for anyone else with some experience or knowledge with spinal injuries.

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After doing some more reading, it is clear that there is a growing body of research to confirm that both brain and spinal cord regeneration is possible, so if the right triggers can be found, progress should be possible in both the traditional areas (spinal cord bruising) and the more challenging situations (spinal cord separations). It appears that the challenge is to overcome the body's natural defence mechanisms which normally prevent this regeneration. While some processes and drugs seem to have the abilty to inhibit the reaction which prevents regrowth, stem cell treatments seem to have had the greatest impact, both because stem cell inserts awaken sleeping cells and also directly stimulate regeneration.

As one of the researchers from Australia wrote in 2004: “In the past it was believed that adult nerves lacked the ability to regrow, but work over the past few years has shown that not to be true and we are now beginning to understand the mechanisms behind regrowth and how to enhance it. Our recent findings are a major step forward in this regard.”

Another researcher explained why the challenge in getting spinal cord and brain regeneration: "The brain and spinal cord are extremely crowded with nerves and nerve fibers, which may be why we have developed careful controls that tell cells to stop making new connections. The crowded central nervous system has ways to say 'OK, we're done' to keep nerves from sprouting willy-nilly and making inappropriate connections. But in gaining the ability to crowd nerves close together, we have given up flexibility - the ability to heal after injury."

The question then becomes whether scenar and associated electronic medicine techniques (laser in particular) can be triggers which can overcome the body's defense mechanism and allow needed spinal cord and brain regeneration. From Dr. Karasev's comments, it is clear that Cosmodic technology can help with at least some forms of spinal cord injuries (at least the ones which involve the bruising of the spine, and resulting paralysis). And from some of Dr. Lytle's comments, it appears that a resonating laser will also help with at least some types of spinal cord and brain injuries. Dr. Lytle also mentions, on his Healing Light video, that the laser can stimulate calling the body's stem cell reserves into action. If a laser helps with this, I suspect that Cosmodic technology should be at least as effective. Since stem cells seem to be the most effective treatment method of spinal cord injuries, the ability to call stem cells to given areas may explain part of the success that Dr. Karasev mentions, and that Dr. Lytle mentioned.

Dr. Karasev, in his FAQ, mentioned that his devices could be used to treate spinal cord injuries, and that treatment invovlved several areas and devices. It would be appreciated if he could provide the treatment methods that others have found effective in the past, or who could be contacted to obtain these.

Any input that could be provided for techniques to try, and whether these have been used successfully with someone who has a spinal cord separation, would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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If anybody has had any experience in treating spinal cord injuries, or has gone through one of the level 3 courses where they teach techniques for treating these injuries and can provide at least what those courses taught, your input would be appreciated.